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MattFMN



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: $2 Per Minute... Reply with quote

I once attended a popular shop management training class with my employer. It was put on by one of the area’s larger parts store chains. Over the course of two nights, we learned how to: analyze our businesses, motivate our employees, bill work, group services into packages, pay our employees, and advertise our services. Scam, scam, scam, scam, scam and scam. Well…that’s what I thought they were.

My boss took away from that class one resounding thing; in his mind…employees were “costing” him $2 per minute! It actually became a mantra of his. He’d walk by and holler, “$2 per minute, that’s what you cost me by not staying busy!” He changed the pay “scheme” on our techs, and added a bonus for the SA for a percentage of gross profit. All this was an effort to soften the “blow” of that $2 per minute “cost”.

For awhile, I sympathized with this theory. I could see where he was coming from…or so I thought. I started reading some posts on a network called iATN.net (International Auto Technicians Network). These posts were in a section known as the SMF (Shop Management Forum). A gentleman by the name of Louis Altazan had such interesting answers to many, many different questions. I did a search for some of his previous posts, and came up with something about 14 Points. I studied these, over and over and over. I finally emailed him with some questions, and he very kindly answered them. He sited many ideas and theories from another gentleman named W. Edwards Deming. I studied as much as I could find on the internet about this truly amazing gentleman. He was a fascinating personality and a very brilliant mind; one that to this day, still gets too little attention and admiration.

With these teachings and theories swimming through my brain, I began to look at the $2 per minute issue with new eyes. I began watching, and timing, oil changes with all our techs. I noticed that often a tech would have to walk back to his toolbox to retrieve a socket or wrench for a drain plug, then an oil filter wrench (sometimes a special socket to remove and replace the oil filter cartridge). On average, this added about 30 seconds to 1 minute to every oil change. Every single one… I didn’t just time how long to walk back to retrieve the tools, but also returning them to their “spots” after the car was driven out.

It occurred to me; why not try to “save” that extra 30 seconds to a minute (a dollar or two)? So, as an experiment (PDSA?), I selected two bays that would be “Lube Racks”. Mounted to the wall in front of each bay was a complete set of metric and standard wrenches along with a large and small oil filter wrench. A tire inflator with a built-in gauge was also hung on the wall.

I tracked LOF times. They were consistently 2 minutes quicker, with no effect (if not a positive effect) on quality. Consistently 2 minutes ($4?). 80 oil changes would pay for all the tools that would have been purchased to be dedicated to the two LOF racks. Basically, in 2 months or less, we would have paid for equipping those two racks and in less than a year been able to equip EVERY bay in the shop in the same manner.

The results of this experiment were very powerful to me. I approached my employer with the results, expecting a very positive response. I, of course, was astounded by the lack of enthusiasm and consideration of its implementation; and also, the lack of consideration in implementing similar practices on other operations in the shop.

Two different views on shop payroll “cost”, two different approaches to dealing with this “cost”. One a short-term method, the other long-term oriented.

How does your shop deal with $2 per minute? Can you think of any other operations in the shop that may make a good example? Does frequenting this site have you reconsidering how you deal with these issues now?
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Dave



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: $2 Per Minute... Reply with quote

MattFMN wrote:

My boss took away from that class one resounding thing; in his mind…employees were “costing” him $2 per minute! It actually became a mantra of his. He’d walk by and holler, “$2 per minute, that’s what you cost me by not staying busy!” He changed the pay “scheme” on our techs, and added a bonus for the SA for a percentage of gross profit. All this was an effort to soften the “blow” of that $2 per minute “cost”.

It is interesting how people pickup on different things. Most businesses are driven by the accounting department. All to often we look at just the one single column on the expense sheet that we are accountable for. We make decisions based on that one single figure. We can easily see the expenses, they are in black and white. But few people look at the whole operation to determine how just one change affects everything else. There is no column on a financial statement that shows what is saved. That is something that has to be worked at to, find out.
MattFMN wrote:
Two different views on shop payroll “cost”, two different approaches to dealing with this “cost”. One a short-term method, the other long-term oriented.

How does your shop deal with $2 per minute? Can you think of any other operations in the shop that may make a good example? Does frequenting this site have you reconsidering how you deal with these issues now?

$2.00 a minute - how can I get the most bang for my buck. What can be done to make the techs more efficient? Had a great idea, eliminate coffee breaks, and we did......... We no longer have a set time to take a break, the guys take breaks whenever they want to. Now they take breaks when the break time fits them and what they are doing, not by the clock. Normally people would start planning on the break 10 or 15 minutes ahead of time and then take some more time to get going again after the break. Now, when the job gets to a natural spot to stop, they do. When they come back in, it is easy to pick up and get going again.

Stocking a lot of the commonly used parts as well as some of the odd ball, hard to find parts. It is very easy to sell an air or fuel filter, if we have one. But, if I have to send someone into town to pick one up, that $12.00 filter costs me at least $150.00. There is vehicle expense, the cost of the person to make the parts run, the loss of income they could have produced while on the run, the cost of a rack being tied up waiting for the part, etc. Now, if we do not stock the filter and need it, we buy two. $12.00 is a lot less expensive than $150.00.

Ordering parts ahead of time so they are there when the job comes in. We try to order all the parts we may need ahead of time. When the job comes in we should not be held up waiting for parts. It is way easier to return unused parts that get them after the fact.

Then there is “the oil of the month club”. With all the different specs for engine oil between the different manufactures it is no longer feasible to pipe in one brand of oil for the whole shop to use. The days are long gone where we put in 30w in the summer and 20w in the winter. I can count 10 different specs of engine oil that we carry, not to mention the different gear oils and ATF’s. These oils are all situated close to the lube rack. The oils we use often are purchased in barrels. The barrels are set on drum dollies, then fitted with air pumps, and electronic metering nozzles. The barrel can be easily wheeled to the front of the car (less than 6 steps), an air hose is located close (2 steps), the type of oil, volume, and drain plug size are all printed on the technicians work sheet.

Some times it is the small things that make a difference. For instance having plenty of electrical outlets, ours are spaced 8 feet apart around the perimeter of the shop. Having plenty of air hoses already hooked up to the air lines. We found that the self retracting air hose reels were hard to work with. So we use hand winding reels, the hose comes off them faster and winds up just as fast. Plus, there is no hose whip if the reel winds up on its own.

We have our floor epoxyed a light tan color. It reflects the light up under the vehicles very well. Our lighting is mounted about 10 feet off the floor between the bays, rather than at ceiling level. The idea is to get more light down to the vehicle where we can use it to see under the hood. We have several trouble lights mounted at various spots through out the shop, but a lot of the time we do not use them. A side benefit to the epoxyed floor is customer perception. “Wow, you have a clean shop, you must do good work.”

I kind of feel like I am bragging here, but hope that it helps someone else out.

Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Matt,

You raise so many good points that we could be discussing them for a month. I'll pick out one, a topic Louis and I have been discussing.

Learning. Your post illuminates the different outlook between you and your employer. You are trying to learn new things and putting the necessary effort into the process. Your employer was not trying to learn anything, other than sitting in on a seminar to pick up 'quick tips,' things he could do immediately. As is usually the case, the quick tips have no foundation of learning and knowledge, so they backfire.

In a broad sense most people want the quick fixes. But the quick fixes don't exist. Internet forums are full of posts asking "what would you do" or the like. They get huge responses; everybody wants to give an opinion.

The posts that say "Let's learn a new concept here" require efort to assimilate, so they get much lower responses.

But in the end it is hard to argue with success. It took the Japanese a full generation, from the end of WWII to the 1980s, to assimilate, learn and apply Deming's 14 points. Now they are killing us in the world economy. They didn't say 'what would you do,' but said 'come teach us how to prosper.'

Good post, Matt. thanks.
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MattFMN



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't agree more! I guess I like to pick on "us westerners" and our society. On reason that jumps out at me is martial arts. I think Japan was primed for use of Deming's philosophy. See, there never used to be such a thing as belts (colored belts designating level) in the martial arts. It took westerners, namely Americans, to force the "masters" to start using a "rating" system to satisfy our need for instant gratification. If there were no way for "us" to see the end (black belt/mastery) then we wouldn't stick with it. For centuries the "easterners" trained in the martial arts and looked at it as a journey, with no such thing as mastery. Often focusing on the very smallest movement with the goal of attaining perfection, even though perfection didn't or maybe couldn't exist (there was ALWAYS room for improvement). This very much mirrors Deming's outlook on business and on quality. I feel that it is atleast a small part of why the Japanese were so adept at sticking to the 14 Points and patient in its evolution. Short-term goals versus Long-term goals. It is amazing to me that we can get so hung up on short-term that we become near-sighted...and for lack of a better term: "can't see past the end of our noses".

I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the response. Later, Matt.
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Louis Altazan



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Matt,

MattFMN wrote:
It is amazing to me that we can get so hung up on short-term that we become near-sighted...and for lack of a better term: "can't see past the end of our noses".


This is a problem that plaques us all [mankind.] A great friend of mine, Heero Hacquebord, is a wonderful statistics teacher. He does an exercise in his class. A contest. Laughing

He starts giving out numbers, one at a time. There is a formula by which the numbers are derived, but this is not given. Instead, by examining the numbers you are to figure out the formula, and thus predict the next numbers.

The kicker is, the one that gets the formula first gets a prize, but if they are wrong, they are out. The one who can predict the remaining numbers wins it all.

You would be amazed how many, well educated folks jump the gun and loose it all trying to win the prize. Remove the prize people will study the data, figure out the formula and by so doing be able to predict the process forever [true winners.]

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A second topic that Matt touches upon in his post is knowledge; proven knowledge verses unproven theorem.

If his employer has been a serious student of business, he would have seen that class as untested theory. Maybe he would even have seen right through it in the beginning as wrong, or simply as distorted facts.

Knowledge builds upon knowledge. Buzz words are not facts, the latest crazes are not foundations to build businesses on.

As example, I once interviewed at a shop whose owner had been going somewhere out of state to attend expensive shop management classes. He told me how his new education was making money for his business.

After awhile he let the cat out of the bag and said they had taught him to lower his labor charge on 'brake jobs' to an extremely low number. Then he went on to explain in detail his stepped incentive pay plan, a flat rate ladder, so to speak.

Naturally I left, uninterested. A few weeks later he calls me, complaining about lousy morale in his shop and says he now needed a whole new crew.

Well, gee, all those fancy-sounding managerial strategies he had learned, and his 'new knowledge,' was backfiring and hurting his business.

That's why I'm so leery of requests for help, anywhere, that say "tell me what to do, so I can copy it." Don't teach me how advertising works, just give me your ad so I can copy it. Don't make me learn how people want to be treated, that takes too much effort. Just give me an incentive and pay plan that will make my employees do what I want.
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